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May 02 2006, 16:47

Not so long ago I posted a topic about MW only (without expansions) mods, asking about the best mods for MW only. Well, after lots of research, one-by-one mods testing and choosing the finest mods (well, the finest there are for MW only), I'm proud to present you the list I came up with. So all you guys who have Morrowind without expansions (if there's any more of us maniacs out there

) don't have to spend as much time as I did on finding mods and trying them. Here goes the list (just a copy-paste from my Morrowind.ini with removed Morrowind.esm):

CODE

GameFile0=Better Heads.esm
GameFile1=Imp Guard anticlone.esm
GameFile2=Morrowind Patch v1.2.2.esm
GameFile4=100ProjectileStoreChance.esp
GameFile5=Advanced Dialogue.esp
GameFile6=adventurers302.esp
GameFile7=adv_npcs_v1.1.esp
GameFile8=Apologies.esp
GameFile9=archcanonsvoice.esp
GameFile10=arena.esp
GameFile11=Ascadian Isles Dialogue.esp
GameFile12=Balance - Magic Effects.esp
GameFile13=Balance - NPC Spellcasting.esp
GameFile14=Balance - spells.esp
GameFile15=Balmora Dialogue.esp
GameFile16=Barabus' fireplaces 2.esp
GameFile17=Beds4Rent.esp
GameFile18=Better Bodies.esp
GameFile19=Better Clothes Beta_1.4.esp
GameFile20=BetterBooks_AlchFormfix.esp
GameFile21=Clean TF_bedreplacer_v1_MW.esp
GameFile22=Complete Morrowind - Replacer.esp
GameFile23=Complete Morrowind.esp
GameFile24=dej_plain_paper_fix.esp
GameFile25=Fire_Hurt_morrowind.esp
GameFile26=Forested Morrowind.esp
GameFile27=Gameplay - Dialogue.esp
GameFile28=Gameplay - Faction.esp
GameFile29=Gnisis Gaurd Fix.esp
GameFile30=Healers.esp
GameFile31=hortatorsvoice.esp
GameFile32=Imp Guard anticlone BH add-on.esp
GameFile33=INDYBANK.esp
GameFile34=Key Replacer MW.esp
GameFile35=KeyNamer.esp
GameFile36=kf_replace.esp
GameFile37=Khajiit Faces v2.esp
GameFile38=K_Scroll_Upgrade_MW.esp
GameFile39=LCV Wolverine Hall 01.esp
GameFile40=Leafy Morrowind.esp
GameFile41=LeftGloves.esp
GameFile42=LGNPC - Foreign Quarter v0.5.esp
GameFile43=LGNPC - Pelagiad.esp
GameFile44=lgnpc_Ald'ruhn.esp
GameFile45=lgnpc_AldVelothi.esp
GameFile46=lgnpc_GnaarMok.esp
GameFile47=lgnpc_HlaOad.esp
GameFile48=lgnpc_IndarysManor.esp
GameFile49=lgnpc_khuul.esp
GameFile50=lgnpc_MaarGan.esp
GameFile51=Lgnpc_SN.esp
GameFile52=LGNPC_Tel Mora_v1.02.esp
GameFile53=Lights_300_V4.esp
GameFile54=MM_Bound.esp
GameFile55=MM_Creeper.esp
GameFile56=MM_Lights.esp
GameFile57=moons_soulgems.esp
GameFile58=MoragTongWritFix.esp
GameFile59=New fire damage effect v1.1 .esp
GameFile60=No thieving start 1.0.esp
GameFile61=NPC LCV Locks.esp
GameFile62=NPC LCV Schedules 03.esp
GameFile63=P.R.E. v4.0.esp
GameFile64=Realism (Fixed).esp
GameFile65=RealSignposts.esp
GameFile66=Reflective Gold.esp
GameFile67=RKCriminals MW.esp
GameFile68=Role Playing Realism Messages.esp
GameFile69=SG-BB-for-beasts.esp
GameFile70=SirLuthor-Tools.esp
GameFile71=SleepOrSuffer.esp
GameFile72=Stealth Enhancements-LD 1.5b (Non-Tribunal).esp
GameFile73=TF_longboat_replacer.esp
GameFile74=Thief Experience Overhaul 1.3b (Non-Tribunal) (Combined).esp
GameFile75=TravelingMerchants_v2.2.esp
GameFile76=Vertical limit climbing mod 1.02.esp
GameFile77=Vivec Signposts.esp
GameFile78=Weapon Length Fix.esp
GameFile79=Windows Glow.esp
GameFile80=Animal Behaviour.esp

Enjoy the MW only expirience pushed to the max.

edit: Of course, this is not "definitively the best mods they pwn rest suck" or anything like that thread, I'm just suggesting those that I've found to be the best for me. Of course, tastes are different, someone might not dislike a mod listed here or like some other mod more, so please, if anyone has some mods for MW without expansions that they use and I don't and find it good, post it here. Thank you.

Vorwoda_the_Black

May 02 2006, 18:58

I don't know if you're interested in Companions at all. If so, you might want to take a look at the link in my Sig. I have a couple of vanilla Morrowind Companions - and an essay on others - whcih you may find of interest.

And thanks for thinking of others who are without the expansions!

So many just say, "Go buy GOTY, it's cheap." What's affordable or practical for one, may not be so for another. Well done!

princess_stomper

May 02 2006, 19:09

I'll bookmark this thread for the next 20 times this question is asked

doccolinni

May 02 2006, 21:07

QUOTE(Vorwoda_the_Black @ May 2 2006, 08:58 PM)

I don't know if you're interested in Companions at all. If so, you might want to take a look at the link in my Sig. I have a couple of vanilla Morrowind Companions - and an essay on others - whcih you may find of interest.

So let me see if I got this right - Companions Hippolyta and Decius doesn't require expansions, right? Cool!

Gonna try it.

QUOTE(Vorwoda_the_Black @ May 2 2006, 08:58 PM)

And thanks for thinking of others who are without the expansions!

So many just say, "Go buy GOTY, it's cheap." What's affordable or practical for one, may not be so for another. Well done!

Thank you. I'm so proud of myself and happy that I made something usefull.

QUOTE(princess_stomper @ May 2 2006, 09:09 PM)

I'll bookmark this thread for the next 20 times this question is asked

I really had no idea that this thread was gonna be as usefull as it is when I was doing it. Thanx.

lol

Nerra

May 02 2006, 21:15

QUOTE(princess_stomper @ May 2 2006, 01:09 PM)

I'll bookmark this thread for the next 20 times this question is asked

Yep, if only he would've posted his list a week ago before Knightdude started pestering us for 'Morrowind only' mods....

There's also this list compiled by Galahaut. http://gmml.pbwiki.com/MWOnlyMods

doccolinni

May 02 2006, 21:22

QUOTE(Nerra @ May 2 2006, 11:15 PM)

Yep, if only he would've posted his list a week ago before Knightdude started pestering us for 'Morrowind only' mods....

There's also this list compiled by Galahaut. http://gmml.pbwiki.com/MWOnlyMods

Well, nothing's perfect, I'm sorry I'm a bit late, but better now then never!

I haven't noticed that a week ago, if I had I'd have surely joined the discussion, though my list wasn't completed yet.

And I'd better check mods from that list too.

Gonna report new findings when I'm finished testing these.

doccolinni

May 03 2006, 08:08

Oh, just wanted to add a note that all these mods are, after tested alone, tested together to ensure that there are no conflicts between them. So this is actually not an ordinary MW only mods. More like a list of mods which work best together to enhance MW.

And for mods that don't work well together I tried to choose the better one, the one that adds more to Morrowind, at least by my estimation. :/

Another mod, now about to test it:
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View....Detail&id=1103

Vorwoda_the_Black

May 03 2006, 23:35

QUOTE(doccolinni @ May 2 2006, 06:07 PM)

So let me see if I got this right - Companions Hippolyta and Decius doesn't require expansions, right? Cool!

Gonna try it.

You've got it right. I hope you enjoy them!

Ronin49

May 05 2006, 03:09

QUOTE(doccolinni @ May 2 2006, 06:07 PM)

So let me see if I got this right - Companions Hippolyta and Decius doesn't require expansions, right? Cool!

Also true of Sakaki Manor, another clever Morrowind only companion mod. It also includes a script that allows you to upgrade to include the Companion Share function if Tribunal is available to you: see the Readme for the author's cautions but 'yes' it works.

Edit: This is a fine and useful list thank you, doccolinni. Do you know HTML?

exclusiveor77

May 14 2006, 18:01

don't let this thread ever disapear

TES Nut

May 31 2006, 12:37

QUOTE(doccolinni @ May 2 2006, 11:47 AM)

Not so long ago I posted a topic about MW only (without expansions) mods, asking about the best mods for MW only. Well, after lots of research, one-by-one mods testing and choosing the finest mods (well, the finest there are for MW only), I'm proud to present you the list I came up with. So all you guys who have Morrowind without expansions (if there's any more of us maniacs out there

) don't have to spend as much time as I did on finding mods and trying them. Here goes the list (just a copy-paste from my Morrowind.ini with removed Morrowind.esm):

CODE

GameFile0=Better Heads.esm
GameFile1=Imp Guard anticlone.esm
GameFile2=Morrowind Patch v1.2.2.esm
GameFile4=100ProjectileStoreChance.esp
GameFile5=Advanced Dialogue.esp
GameFile6=adventurers302.esp
GameFile7=adv_npcs_v1.1.esp
GameFile8=Apologies.esp
GameFile9=archcanonsvoice.esp
GameFile10=arena.esp
GameFile11=Ascadian Isles Dialogue.esp
GameFile12=Balance - Magic Effects.esp
GameFile13=Balance - NPC Spellcasting.esp
GameFile14=Balance - spells.esp
GameFile15=Balmora Dialogue.esp
GameFile16=Barabus' fireplaces 2.esp
GameFile17=Beds4Rent.esp
GameFile18=Better Bodies.esp
GameFile19=Better Clothes Beta_1.4.esp
GameFile20=BetterBooks_AlchFormfix.esp
GameFile21=Clean TF_bedreplacer_v1_MW.esp
GameFile22=Complete Morrowind - Replacer.esp
GameFile23=Complete Morrowind.esp
GameFile24=dej_plain_paper_fix.esp
GameFile25=Fire_Hurt_morrowind.esp
GameFile26=Forested Morrowind.esp
GameFile27=Gameplay - Dialogue.esp
GameFile28=Gameplay - Faction.esp
GameFile29=Gnisis Gaurd Fix.esp
GameFile30=Healers.esp
GameFile31=hortatorsvoice.esp
GameFile32=Imp Guard anticlone BH add-on.esp
GameFile33=INDYBANK.esp
GameFile34=Key Replacer MW.esp
GameFile35=KeyNamer.esp
GameFile36=kf_replace.esp
GameFile37=Khajiit Faces v2.esp
GameFile38=K_Scroll_Upgrade_MW.esp
GameFile39=LCV Wolverine Hall 01.esp
GameFile40=Leafy Morrowind.esp
GameFile41=LeftGloves.esp
GameFile42=LGNPC - Foreign Quarter v0.5.esp
GameFile43=LGNPC - Pelagiad.esp
GameFile44=lgnpc_Ald'ruhn.esp
GameFile45=lgnpc_AldVelothi.esp
GameFile46=lgnpc_GnaarMok.esp
GameFile47=lgnpc_HlaOad.esp
GameFile48=lgnpc_IndarysManor.esp
GameFile49=lgnpc_khuul.esp
GameFile50=lgnpc_MaarGan.esp
GameFile51=Lgnpc_SN.esp
GameFile52=LGNPC_Tel Mora_v1.02.esp
GameFile53=Lights_300_V4.esp
GameFile54=MM_Bound.esp
GameFile55=MM_Creeper.esp
GameFile56=MM_Lights.esp
GameFile57=moons_soulgems.esp
GameFile58=MoragTongWritFix.esp
GameFile59=New fire damage effect v1.1 .esp
GameFile60=No thieving start 1.0.esp
GameFile61=NPC LCV Locks.esp
GameFile62=NPC LCV Schedules 03.esp
GameFile63=P.R.E. v4.0.esp
GameFile64=Realism (Fixed).esp
GameFile65=RealSignposts.esp
GameFile66=Reflective Gold.esp
GameFile67=RKCriminals MW.esp
GameFile68=Role Playing Realism Messages.esp
GameFile69=SG-BB-for-beasts.esp
GameFile70=SirLuthor-Tools.esp
GameFile71=SleepOrSuffer.esp
GameFile72=Stealth Enhancements-LD 1.5b (Non-Tribunal).esp
GameFile73=TF_longboat_replacer.esp
GameFile74=Thief Experience Overhaul 1.3b (Non-Tribunal) (Combined).esp
GameFile75=TravelingMerchants_v2.2.esp
GameFile76=Vertical limit climbing mod 1.02.esp
GameFile77=Vivec Signposts.esp
GameFile78=Weapon Length Fix.esp
GameFile79=Windows Glow.esp
GameFile80=Animal Behaviour.esp

Enjoy the MW only expirience pushed to the max.

edit: Of course, this is not "definitively the best mods they pwn rest suck" or anything like that thread, I'm just suggesting those that I've found to be the best for me. Of course, tastes are different, someone might not dislike a mod listed here or like some other mod more, so please, if anyone has some mods for MW without expansions that they use and I don't and find it good, post it here. Thank you.

Well thats a really "cool" ausome list. :-)

HOWEVER, I feel the best thing would be if you and others could give some links to the places to get them all, (those in the list I mean, well those and any others)...

Looking at names is one thing, being able to find and DL them/use them, is a whole other ball game.

So like, do you have URL.s for those, places they can be gotton, and any one else have any links?

:-)

>>>>>>THX<<<<<<

Charsiupao

August 09 2006, 13:57

QUOTE(Vorwoda_the_Black @ May 4 2006, 08:35 AM)

You've got it right. I hope you enjoy them!

Is there a way to upgrade Hippolyta to use a Companion Share function after you get Tribunal?

Ronin49

August 16 2006, 06:27

QUOTE(Charsiupao @ Aug 9 2006, 10:57 AM)

Is there a way to upgrade Hippolyta to use a Companion Share function after you get Tribunal?

Not to my knowledge, Charsiupao, though Vorwoda is the obviously the expert on that one.

It is a matter of adding the right scripting I think but rather doubt there would be much attraction for him to do so, because of the way the whole mod is cleverly set up on a dialogue basis. And ones with Companion Share are a dime-a-dozen, whereas his is rather unique.

ShinSevenX

August 16 2006, 20:55

QUOTE(TES Nut @ May 31 2006, 08:37 AM)

Well thats a really "cool" ausome list. :-)

HOWEVER, I feel the best thing would be if you and others could give some links to the places to get them all, (those in the list I mean, well those and any others)...

Looking at names is one thing, being able to find and DL them/use them, is a whole other ball game.

So like, do you have URL.s for those, places they can be gotton, and any one else have any links?

:-)

>>>>>>THX<<<<<<

I definitely agree there. A lot of those mods I really would like to have....but after searching for hours, I tend to get frustrated. and how did you get the LCV locks schedules 03 to work w/o it giving you any guff when MW started up? I followed the readme, and I still get the unrecognized object warning.

Ronin49

August 16 2006, 22:10

QUOTE(ShinSevenX @ Aug 16 2006, 05:55 PM)

I definitely agree there. A lot of those mods I really would like to have....but after searching for hours, I tend to get frustrated. ...

Me too . . . especially for people who won't look for themselves.
It takes most of us quite awhile to get a new game sorted out properly. It is not so hard really, just takes some time.
You have the names already. Telesphoros' and the other lists will have some of those and about 90% (+ or - a tad) are on the three big download sites - ElricM.com, the Planet and TESSource, all with at least decent search engines if you have the mod name already.

So here is a thought . . . just a suggestion . . .
Why not take your own thread, this one - List of Mods compatible with Just Original Morrowind <snip> - and start editing the first post, adding the excellent suggestions you have received, one at a time, with links, maybe alphabetically or grouped by type or a little of both.
That way you will have them and no one will ever be frustrated by this again. And you will be the guy or gal who made that great vanilla Morrowind mod list.

If you did that, I would be happy to help a little and I reckon other folk would post some links and help out too . . .

Like this: Imperial Guards anticlone 1.0 by TheLys

QUOTE

This mod is an ultra simple one, adding some variety to imperial guards faces. .... Also added a new helm for Guard captains, using the Templar mesh and a reworked texture.

Just a thought. YMMV.

ShinSevenX

August 17 2006, 02:36

QUOTE(Ronin49 @ Aug 16 2006, 06:10 PM)

Me too . . . especially for people who won't look for themselves.
It takes most of us quite awhile to get a new game sorted out properly. It is not so hard really, just takes some time.
You have the names already. Telesphoros' and the other lists will have some of those and about 90% (+ or - a tad) are on the three big download sites - ElricM.com, the Planet and TESSource, all with at least decent search engines if you have the mod name already.

So here is a thought . . . just a suggestion . . .
Why not take your own thread, this one - List of Mods compatible with Just Original Morrowind <snip> - and start editing the first post, adding the excellent suggestions you have received, one at a time, with links, maybe alphabetically or grouped by type or a little of both.
That way you will have them and no one will ever be frustrated by this again. And you will be the guy or gal who made that great vanilla Morrowind mod list.

If you did that, I would be happy to help a little and I reckon other folk would post some links and help out too . . .

Like this: Imperial Guards anticlone 1.0 by TheLys

Just a thought. YMMV.

well, it is a very creative thought. And it sounds like a great idea. in fact I am working on a list right now. But it won't be up for a while for sure. One big reason. I have went to some of the places that have mod lists for only Morrowind and either they were dead-ends, or they had content that was dependent on BM and Tribunal. So, I want to check each and every one of them, so they are all kosher. not to mention the monumental task of moving again and I have a surgery coming up makes this an project to be contiinued. in any case, it is a great thought and I would be more than happy to do it. when I can.

one more thing. TES and Vormoda, please get ahold of me. TES, I would like to hear where you got all these awesome mods. and Vormoda, I have a question about your awesome MW companion Hippolyta. ^^ Thanks!

Ronin49

August 17 2006, 12:36

QUOTE(ShinSevenX @ Aug 16 2006, 11:36 PM)

.... in fact I am working on a list right now. <snip> one more thing. TES and Vormoda, please get ahold of me....

Great, I look forward to seeing your list when you have the time.

Posting in a thread for folk to contact you like that will not generally get a response.
Use the Members directory, top right on each forum page, and send folk a Personal Message (PM).
That works.

Vorwoda_the_Black

August 20 2006, 02:52

QUOTE(Ronin49 @ Aug 16 2006, 03:27 AM)

Not to my knowledge, Charsiupao, though Vorwoda is the obviously the expert on that one.

It is a matter of adding the right scripting I think but rather doubt there would be much attraction for him to do so, because of the way the whole mod is cleverly set up on a dialogue basis. And ones with Companion Share are a dime-a-dozen, whereas his is rather unique.

Thanks, Ronin, I appreciate that compliment more than you know!

It's simple to add regular Trib Companion Share to them (and a bit more complicated to gut my own system from them - you DO NOT want to use both systems with the same Companion because EXTREMELY Bad Things will happen) but the end result is fairly dull.

It's percfectly safe to use them "as is" in a Trib/BM enhanced game alongside Companions who use the standard Share system; you just don't want to use both systems within the same Companion.

As Ronin pointed out, the whole point was the introduction of a Share workaround for vanilla Morrowind, and 90% of the mod is geared around that. As this thread shows, there are still people who play without the expansions, and I am glad to see my children can still contribute to the playability of their games. I did do a regular Companion Share version once, but truth to tell, I found myself missing the ability to have them don and remove their own armour and weapons without having to lug their gear around myself, missing their ability to repair their own gear, missing the ability to have them change clothes without lugging a wardrobe around in my own inventory and swapping things by hand. My system does have a couple advantages over the official Share, as well as a couple of disadvantages.

It's true that H&D do have more than just my Share workaround - I added a micro quest, a romance, Morrowind's first marriage scenario and a couple of other goodies, but those were really frills compared to the guts of the mod. Emma has done REAL work in adding massive content in the very areas of Companion interaction that I simply used as set dressing (story, romance, quests, dialogue). And her mods - alone and in collaboration with the late, great Grumpy - are simply stunning in those areas.

Emma has always been extremely gracious in recommending Hippolyta and Decius over her own vanilla MW Companions. And I can wholeheartedly recommend her Tribunal/Bloodmoon Companions (Laura, Laurenna, Morgana, Constance, et al) over any Tribunal/Bloodmoon conversion of my own Hippolyta and Decius. The difference in depth of play would be like the difference between reading "War and Peace" and reading the ingredients list on a box of Corn Flakes.

Having said all that, I think I still have the Trib version of H&D lying around in a dusty partition of my hard drive. If you really want them, I'll be happy to send them to you.

princess_stomper

December 18 2006, 20:30

Better Unhide Missing Page

osiris.

December 18 2006, 20:51

QUOTE(Vorwoda_the_Black @ May 2 2006, 08:58 PM)

And thanks for thinking of others who are without the expansions!

So many just say, "Go buy GOTY, it's cheap." What's affordable or practical for one, may not be so for another. Well done!

Vorwoda, i will use your post as my signature. Well done, really!
Now i own both the expansions and 2 GOTY editions, but i still think that thinking at who don't own them, would be nice.

princess_stomper

February 10 2007, 11:18

Bumping Unselfishly Makes Preservative

(Have to bump this occasionally to stop it getting yanked)

princess_stomper

February 10 2007, 13:44

OK, since this question is asked so often, I've actually put this into a webpage (hope that's OK, doccollini):

http://princess.elricm.net/MWOnlyMods.htm

Not all of the mods have links - simply because I didn't know what a lot of them were! - but there are links for all the "main" ones. I've also linked in my own mods that don't require expansions, and the other .ini list posted earlier.

Do post links if you can identify the other mods.

Dragon32

February 10 2007, 13:55

GameFile2=Morrowind Patch v1.2.2.esm
GameFile7=adv_npcs_v1.1.esp
GameFile32=Imp Guard anticlone BH add-on.esp
GameFile63=P.R.E. v4.0.esp

GameFile12=Balance - Magic Effects.esp
GameFile13=Balance - NPC Spellcasting.esp
GameFile14=Balance - spells.esp
GameFile27=Gameplay - Dialogue.esp
GameFile28=Gameplay - Faction.esp
All these are from the modular version of Wakim's Game Improvements

[Edit: Forgot to say: thanks for doing this Princess. Excellent resource and I'm sure we'll be linking people to this in the future!

]

princess_stomper

February 10 2007, 14:46

Fixed - thanks

doccolinni

February 10 2007, 15:53

QUOTE(princess_stomper @ Feb 10 2007, 02:44 PM)

OK, since this question is asked so often, I've actually put this into a webpage (hope that's OK, doccollini):

http://princess.elricm.net/MWOnlyMods.htm

Not all of the mods have links - simply because I didn't know what a lot of them were! - but there are links for all the "main" ones. I've also linked in my own mods that don't require expansions, and the other .ini list posted earlier.

Do post links if you can identify the other mods.

Oh yeah, that's perfectly fine with me, I just want to say sorry for not posting in this thread for so long, I was away a bit, and I don't have my own computer right now so I can't play mw at the moment, so I couldn't try those two companion mods.

Glad this list came to be so usefull.