ES Forum Archive > Oblivion Mods > [Relz] Phinix Immersive DarkUI Compatability Fix for OOO and SI
6/16/07 - Updated
6/17/07 - Added Screenshots to TESSource
I'm almost embarrassed to start a release thread on this, as it is not really anything of a mod, but I figure it may help prevent the bounds of threads asking for CTD help once the final OOO 1.32 is released. This is simply an edit to the UI xml for those who feel uncomfortable making the changes themselves. Nothing new is really being done, I just never saw an actual "release" for this fix.
TES Download Link and Screenies
6/17/07 - Added Screenshots to TESSource
I'm almost embarrassed to start a release thread on this, as it is not really anything of a mod, but I figure it may help prevent the bounds of threads asking for CTD help once the final OOO 1.32 is released. This is simply an edit to the UI xml for those who feel uncomfortable making the changes themselves. Nothing new is really being done, I just never saw an actual "release" for this fix.
TES Download Link and Screenies
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Phinix Immersive DarkUI - OOO / SI Compatiblilty Fix
The Oblivion 1.2 official patch unearthed a bug that exists with user interface mods. Certain 'time effect' spells cause a crash to desktop (CTD) if the graphical 'arc timer' is not enabled above the spell effect icons in the UI. This file simply replaces the appropriate UI xml to enable the arctimer above and moves the text timers below the spell effects icons, eliminating the CTDs.
In particular, the trapped chests introduced by Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul 1.32 cause these CTDs, as they rely on time effects for their damage. By enabling this file, there is no need to use the optional add-on "OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effect.esp", thus preserving Oscuro's initial vision for his mod.
In addition, there is an enemy in Shivering Isles whose attack is dependent on time effect spells as well, creating a CTD with his encounter. This mod should prevent that.
*****Version 1.5 - Update: Added apet07's fix to allow scrolling to the bottom of the gamemap for those with widescreen monitors. The entrance to SI can now be seen on the map without clipping. Also fixed the omod script, thanks to MiSP.
Installation:
1. Backup / rename your hudmainmenu_config.xml file in the /Data/menus/prefabs/ui_config folder and your map_menu.xml file in the Data/menus/main folder.
2. Copy contents into your Data directory; it should add one file to your /Data/menus/prefabs/ui_config folder and one file to your /Data/menus/main folder.
Removal:
Do the opposite.
Requirements:
Phinix Immersive DarkUI must be installed prior to this file.
Special thanks:
MiSP for his proofreading and fix to the omod script
Apet07 for the scrolling map fix
DarN, Phinix, the BTMod team and the II team for the base mod in the first place
The Oblivion 1.2 official patch unearthed a bug that exists with user interface mods. Certain 'time effect' spells cause a crash to desktop (CTD) if the graphical 'arc timer' is not enabled above the spell effect icons in the UI. This file simply replaces the appropriate UI xml to enable the arctimer above and moves the text timers below the spell effects icons, eliminating the CTDs.
In particular, the trapped chests introduced by Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul 1.32 cause these CTDs, as they rely on time effects for their damage. By enabling this file, there is no need to use the optional add-on "OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effect.esp", thus preserving Oscuro's initial vision for his mod.
In addition, there is an enemy in Shivering Isles whose attack is dependent on time effect spells as well, creating a CTD with his encounter. This mod should prevent that.
*****Version 1.5 - Update: Added apet07's fix to allow scrolling to the bottom of the gamemap for those with widescreen monitors. The entrance to SI can now be seen on the map without clipping. Also fixed the omod script, thanks to MiSP.
Installation:
1. Backup / rename your hudmainmenu_config.xml file in the /Data/menus/prefabs/ui_config folder and your map_menu.xml file in the Data/menus/main folder.
2. Copy contents into your Data directory; it should add one file to your /Data/menus/prefabs/ui_config folder and one file to your /Data/menus/main folder.
Removal:
Do the opposite.
Requirements:
Phinix Immersive DarkUI must be installed prior to this file.
Special thanks:
MiSP for his proofreading and fix to the omod script
Apet07 for the scrolling map fix
DarN, Phinix, the BTMod team and the II team for the base mod in the first place
Great, nice fix! Added it to my list 
Awesome! Thanks for this. I'll add it to the OOO Getting Started guide.
Nice idea to make it a file , I ahd to search for myself and edit wiohtout knowing what I was doing the xml files.
that's my post below btw hihi ^^
For those that experience crashes when hit by certain touch spell (like the minotaur power) when using Phinix immersive darkui.It's a problem that all UI that changes the shrinking bar by text have.
Nobody knows why it makes the game crash but it does, the only way to fix this is to have the vanilla timer bar at the same time than the text one.
Thanks to a topic about Darn UI in the offical forums I found the fix.
Open this file :
Oblivion\Data\menus\prefabs\ui_config\hudmainmenu_config.xml
Change the word "false" by "true" on this line :
<_arctimer> &false; </_arctimer>
Then ingame you will have both the original Phinix UI text timer during effects, but under it there will be a (hardly visible) timer bar that won't shrink, you almost don't see it so it's no big deal and it will fix your CTD.
that's my post below btw hihi ^^
For those that experience crashes when hit by certain touch spell (like the minotaur power) when using Phinix immersive darkui.It's a problem that all UI that changes the shrinking bar by text have.
Nobody knows why it makes the game crash but it does, the only way to fix this is to have the vanilla timer bar at the same time than the text one.
Thanks to a topic about Darn UI in the offical forums I found the fix.
Open this file :
Oblivion\Data\menus\prefabs\ui_config\hudmainmenu_config.xml
Change the word "false" by "true" on this line :
<_arctimer> &false; </_arctimer>
Then ingame you will have both the original Phinix UI text timer during effects, but under it there will be a (hardly visible) timer bar that won't shrink, you almost don't see it so it's no big deal and it will fix your CTD.
I noticed the script was broken (missed quotation marks). Here's the fix:
(I took the liberty of adding headers to the install/not install message boxes and reword the messages themselves for added clarity. The rest of the script is, as you can see, the same. Discard the changes of you want.)
CODE
DontInstallAnyDataFiles
If DialogYesNo "Is Phinix Immersive DarkUI currently installed?" "Using Phinix Immersive DarkUI?"
Message "The UI fix will now be installed." "About to install"
InstallDataFile "menus\\prefabs\\ui_config\\hudmainmenu_config.xml"
Else
Message "You must intall Phinix Immersive DarkUI prior to installing this fix." "Can't install"
FatalError
EndIf
If DialogYesNo "Is Phinix Immersive DarkUI currently installed?" "Using Phinix Immersive DarkUI?"
Message "The UI fix will now be installed." "About to install"
InstallDataFile "menus\\prefabs\\ui_config\\hudmainmenu_config.xml"
Else
Message "You must intall Phinix Immersive DarkUI prior to installing this fix." "Can't install"
FatalError
EndIf
(I took the liberty of adding headers to the install/not install message boxes and reword the messages themselves for added clarity. The rest of the script is, as you can see, the same. Discard the changes of you want.)
Thanks for sharing and the linky, will add this to the list ! ! !
Installing this ASAP
Lemme know if there are any problems with this or any suggestions for other changes to be incorporated.
Added screenies to TESSource.
If you are using a UI different than this one, what is the easiest way to confirm that your UI doesn't suffer from this same Crash To Desktop (CTD) bug?
QUOTE(Silverglade @ Jun 23 2007, 06:48 AM) 
If you are using a UI different than this one, what is the easiest way to confirm that your UI doesn't suffer from this same Crash To Desktop (CTD) bug?
Well, the new DaRN UI doesn't have the issue. Any other UI that disabled the line bar above the spell effect icons will have the problem. Take a look at the screenshots on the TES download page. It shows the icons on the upper right hand corner with a line above them and number below. If that line isn't present (drink a potion to find out), then you will have the crash problem.
QUOTE(drmbs76 @ Jun 23 2007, 12:18 PM)
Well, the new DaRN UI doesn't have the issue. Any other UI that disabled the line bar above the spell effect icons will have the problem. Take a look at the screenshots on the TES download page. It shows the icons on the upper right hand corner with a line above them and number below. If that line isn't present (drink a potion to find out), then you will have the crash problem.
Sorry to be a pest, but I'm still not following you. Neither DarN 1.1 or Immersive Interface 1.0.3 show the arc timers over the effect icons, and neither of them causes a Crash To Desktop (CTD). Are these random CTDs that you are talking about, or are they easily reproducible. I'm trying to make some interface changes myself, and I want to be sure I understand what this problem is so my changes don't start causing CTDs.
BTW, I have 1.2.0416 but not Shivering Isles installed.
QUOTE(Silverglade @ Jun 23 2007, 04:18 PM)
Sorry to be a pest, but I'm still not following you. Neither DarN 1.1 or Immersive Interface 1.0.3 show the arc timers over the effect icons, and neither of them causes a Crash To Desktop (CTD). Are these random CTDs that you are talking about, or are they easily reproducible. I'm trying to make some interface changes myself, and I want to be sure I understand what this problem is so my changes don't start causing CTDs.
BTW, I have 1.2.0416 but not Shivering Isles installed.
BTW, I have 1.2.0416 but not Shivering Isles installed.
These CTDs will occur when certain spells are cast against you. Or if you use OOO, when opening trapped chests you will get a CTD. Here's a link to the thread detailing it. Start with Post #14. I believe with your setup, you will get a CTD if you encounter the spells, which are used by some spellcasters in plain Oblivion also, not just SI.
Well done drmbs76!
Links are dead, where can I get the widescreen map scrolling fix?
Any reason why the Darnified size 22 font fails to appear?
Not a huge problem - replaced ini entry with the size 18 font - but seems a bit odd.
Also, my location, entryways, etc are not appearing on the local map when outside... Known issue?
Not a huge problem - replaced ini entry with the size 18 font - but seems a bit odd.
Also, my location, entryways, etc are not appearing on the local map when outside... Known issue?
